Good Day…

This is how sometimes this blog will evolve…

Good day. My father F/L John R Irwin flew with 443 Squadron during WWII. He passed away 20 years ago of complications from cardio-vascular disease. I’m curious and wonder if there’s some way to determine something I’ve been unable to clarify. That is…who was flying wing to S/L Wally McLeod the day he didn’t return?

Many thanks for any assistance you may be able to offer

Regards,

Tony Irwin

A comment is how this blog was created back in 2013 when Nicole Morley wrote a comment on another blog I had created in 2011. It was about RCAF 403 Squadron.

Nicole wanted to share a story with me about her granduncle Arthur James Horrell who was with 443 Squadron…

She wanted to know more about how her granduncle died.

Then little by little other people joined in like Tara whose grandfather was Paul Piché seen here on a group picture.

Paul Piché died in the same crash as Arthur Horrell.

Later on Nicole visited Ivor Williams.

Ivor was on the group picture and he identified a few pilots.

There were a few errors but they were later corrected thanks to Nicole and Tara who teamed up.

Which brings me four years later to write about another pilot who was not on that group picture, but on this post written in April 2013

F/O J. R. Irwin was just first a name, then a picture which was shared Art Sager’s son.

This is what Tony Irwin has just shared a few minutes ago…

 

A picture of his father when he was a recruit.

Tony wanted to know more…

I’m curious and wonder if there’s some way to determine something I’ve been unable to clarify. That is…who was flying wing to S/L Wally McLeod the day he didn’t return?

How Wally McLeod died and who was his wingman?

 

To read Leslie Birket Foster’s memoirs, click here.

To learn more about F/O J. R. Irwin…?

For your consideration.

An aviation print by Robert Taylor depicting ‘The Canadian Wing’ patrolling the beaches of Normandy on D-Day. As per my dad’s log book he participated in those patrols.

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More than just names…?

This is post 94 on this blog.

It started here

In fact it started in 1952 on page 4, last paragraph.

Flying Officers L. P. E. Piche and A. J. Horrell set out in an Auster to fly to Antwerp. They arrived there safely, took off again and vanished into the blue. Both pilots had been with the squadron since Gander days.

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More than just names…?

I had never heard of those two pilots before Nicole Morley wrote a comment on my blog paying homage to another RCAF fighter squadron, No. 403.

Nicole had written a simple comment posted in March 2013.

Hi

My name is Nicole Morley and my Great Uncle Arthur James Horrell was in the 443 squadron. I don’t know if my Great Uncle ever knew William Irvine Gould but I imagine he probably did. I’m doing some research on my Uncle and was wondering if there was anyone who had pictures or information about the 443 squadron or anything related to my Uncle. You can reach me at my e-mail address.

Thanks

It was about this article.

I had replied that she had the wrong squadron, but that I could help her by creating a new blog about 443 squadron.

This blog had evolved a lot since 2013.

Flying Officer Piché

Names are now more than just names…

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Arrival in Liverpool, January 1944 Redux

I had started this blog with what I could find about 443 Squadron.

I had found this information on the Internet…

On the morning of December 23, 1943, the advance party of No. 129 Squadron arrived to take over No. 127’s duties at Dartmouth and a happy band of officers and airmen boarded a train to take them home on embarkation leave. So ended No. 127 Squadron’s tour in Canada. The squadron’s flying personnel now included: S/L H. W. McLeod, F/Ls D. M. Walz and M. V. Shenk, P/Os E. H. Fairfield, A. J. Horrell, A. Hunter, G. F. Ockenden and C. E. Scarlett, P/Os W. A. Aziz, S. Bregman, L. B. Foster, W. A. C. Gilbert, T. G. Munro, L. Perez-Gomez, L. P. E. Piché, W. I. Williams and L. H. Wilson, W02 D. F. Bridges, F/Ss P. G. Bockman, P. E. Ferguson and G. E. Urquhart, and Sgt H. W. Summerfeldt.

 

The squadron’s flying personnel now included:

S/L H. W. McLeod,

F/L D. M. Walz

F/L M. V. Shenk,

P/O E. H. Fairfield,

P/O A. J. Horrell,

P/O A. Hunter,

P/O G. F. Ockenden

P/O C. E. Scarlett,

P/O W. A. Aziz,

P/O S. Bregman,

P/O L. B. Foster,

P/O W. A. C. Gilbert,

P/O T. G. Munro,

P/O L. Perez-Gomez,

P/O L. P. E. Piché,

P/O W. I. Williams

 P/O L. H. Wilson,

WO2 D. F. Bridges,

F/S P. G. Bockman,

F/S P. E. Ferguson and

F/S G. E. Urquhart, and

Sgt H. W. Summerfeldt.

 

Little did I know back then that this blog would generate some interest among my readers.

In this message, Tara, Paul Émile Piché’s granddaughter wants to know who is the unknown pilot in this picture?

new identification 443 January 1944

I have been trying to figure out who the “unknown” pilot in the first row of the picture is. I have also changed the pilot identified as “Ferguson” in the far right, back row to “unknown” since P.E. Ferguson has been identified.

On Mr. McManus’ website, he identifies the members of 443 Squadron before they left Dartmouth. I put this information in a table to help us identify the “unknown” pilots in the photo.  McManus tells us that there were 23 pilots in 443 Squadron but the photo only has 18 people in it. When I cross-reference the pilots from McManus’ website, I find that six people are not accounted for in the photo:

F/L D.M. Walz

P/O E.H. Fairfield

P/O S. Bregman

WO2 D.F. Bridges

F/S G.E. Urquhart.

Sgt. H.W. Summerfeldt.

If this photo is only of the pilots, can we assume that the two unknown airmen are Fairfield and Bregman?
Would you be able to double-check my work to see if this might be a possibility? I think it is important to put a name to these men. To that end, I would also like to put their full names where possible instead of just initials. Somewhere, someone knew them as “Bill” or “Len” etc. and by giving them a name instead of initials, we make their life more real.
Thanks,
Tara

This is the original picture taken from the archives of the DND.

Squadron photo Jan 1944

I used it to make different montages.

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Paul Emile Piché

Paul-Émile Piché

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Art Horrell

Arthur James Horrell

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Luis Perez-Gomez

Luis Perez-Gomez

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Alex Hunter

Alex Hunter

Squadron photo Jan 1944 C E Scarlet

C. E. Scarlet

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Ferguson

Percival Edward Ferguson

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Gordon Frederick Ockenden

Gordon Frederick Ockenden

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Henry Wallace McLeod

Henry Wallace McLeod

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Ivor Williams

Ivor Williams

Squadron photo Jan 1944 L H Wilson

L. H. Wilson

Squadron photo Jan 1944 M V Shenk

M. V. Shenk

Squadron photo Jan 1944 P G Bockman

P. G. Bockman

Squadron photo Jan 1944 T G Munroe

T. G. Munroe

Squadron photo Jan 1944 unidentified pilot

unidentified pilot

Squadron photo Jan 1944 W A Aziz

W. A. Aziz

Squadron photo Jan 1944 W A C Gilbert

W. A. C. Gilbert

This is Tara’s worksheet about where she stands right now in her search.

Rank 127 Squadron – December 1943

Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

(From: http://www.mcmanus.ca/02CofC/443history_files/history1.htm)

23 pilots, 3 airmen and 1 medical officer

January 31, 1944

Liverpool, England

(From: photo edited by Ivor Williams)

First and middle names? Notes
S/L H.W. McLeod Henry Wallace McLeod   Took over leadership of Squadron from Paul Gilbertson Dec  1943
F/L D.M. Waltz     One of original 13 pilots of 127 Squadron
F/L M.V. Shenk M.V. Shenk Vince? Joined squadron  in July 1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O E.H. Fairfield     Not sure when he joined 443
P/O A. J. Horrell Arthur James Horrell   Joined squadron at Gander in May 1943
P/O A. Hunter Alex Hunter   Joined squadron  in Sept.  1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O G. F. Ockenden Gordon Frederick Ockenden   Joined squadron at Gander in April 1943
P/O C.E. Scarlett C.E. Scarlett   Joined squadron at Gander in April 1943
P/O W.A. Aziz W.A. Aziz Bill? Joined squadron at Gander in June 1943
P/O S. Bregman     Joined squadron at Gander in June 1943
P/O. L. B. Foster Les Foster   Joined squadron at Gander in Dec 1942
P/O W.A.C.Gilbert William Alonzo Cramner Gilbert   Joined squadron  in Nov. 1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O T.G. Munro T.G. Munro   Joined squadron  in July 1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O L. Perez-Gomez Luis Perez-Gomez   Joined squadron  in Nov. 1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O P.E. Piche Louis Paul Emile Piche   Joined squadron  in July 1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O W. I. Williams Ivor Williams   Joined squadron at Gander in Dec 1942
P/O L. H. Wilson L.H. Wilson Len? Joined squadron  in Nov. 1943 now back in Dartmouth
WO2 D.F. Bridges     Joined squadron at Gander in Dec 1942
F/S P.G. Bockman P.G. Bockman (Vickers)   Joined squadron at Gander in Nov 1942
F/S P.E. Ferguson Percival Edward Ferguson   Joined squadron  in July 1943 now back in Dartmouth
F/S G.E. Urquhart     Joined squadron at Gander in Nov 1943
Sgt. H.W. Summerfeldt     Joined squadron at Gander in June 1943
December 23, 1943 – Jan ? 1944  Embarkation Leave

Depart Lachine on ship, “Pasteur” on Jan 20, 1944

 Arrive Liverpool, England January 31, 1944

Once in England they were joined in approximately March 1944 by:
F/S R.A. Hodgins      
F/L W.A. Prest      
Further joined in approximately April 1944 by:
F/L I.R. MacLennan      
DFM Hugh Russell      
  E.B. Stovel      
F/O J.R. Irwin      
F/O G.R. Stephen      
P/O R.B. Henderson      
“A” Flight – Ian MacLennan “B” Flight – Bill Prest
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

 

Arrival in Liverpool, January 1944

From this picture found on the Internet in 2013…

443 Squadron Pilots arriving in England in 1944

To this when Nicole Morley met Ivor Williams…

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And to this from Tara, Paul-Émile Piché’s granddaughter…

Squadron photo Jan 1944

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Paul Emile Piché

Paul-Émile Piché

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Art Horrell

Arthur Horrell

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Luis Perez-Gomez

Luis Perez-Gomez

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Alex Hunter

Alex Hunter

Squadron photo Jan 1944 C E Scarlet

C E Scarlet

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Ferguson

Percival Edward Ferguson

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Gordon Frederick Ockenden

Gordon Frederick Ockenden

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Henry Wallace McLeod

Henry Wallace McLeod

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Ivor Williams

Ivor Williams

Squadron photo Jan 1944 L H Wilson

L H Wilson

Squadron photo Jan 1944 M V Shenk

M V Shenk

Squadron photo Jan 1944 P G Bockman

P G Bockman

Squadron photo Jan 1944 T G Munroe

T G Munroe

Squadron photo Jan 1944 unidentified pilot

Was an unidentified pilot…

Sidney  Bregman

Squadron photo Jan 1944 W A Aziz

W A Aziz

Squadron photo Jan 1944 W A C Gilbert

W A C Gilbert