Good Day…

This is how sometimes this blog will evolve…

Good day. My father F/L John R Irwin flew with 443 Squadron during WWII. He passed away 20 years ago of complications from cardio-vascular disease. I’m curious and wonder if there’s some way to determine something I’ve been unable to clarify. That is…who was flying wing to S/L Wally McLeod the day he didn’t return?

Many thanks for any assistance you may be able to offer

Regards,

Tony Irwin

A comment is how this blog was created back in 2013 when Nicole Morley wrote a comment on another blog I had created in 2011. It was about RCAF 403 Squadron.

Nicole wanted to share a story with me about her granduncle Arthur James Horrell who was with 443 Squadron…

She wanted to know more about how her granduncle died.

Then little by little other people joined in like Tara whose grandfather was Paul Piché seen here on a group picture.

Paul Piché died in the same crash as Arthur Horrell.

Later on Nicole visited Ivor Williams.

Ivor was on the group picture and he identified a few pilots.

There were a few errors but they were later corrected thanks to Nicole and Tara who teamed up.

Which brings me four years later to write about another pilot who was not on that group picture, but on this post written in April 2013

F/O J. R. Irwin was just first a name, then a picture which was shared Art Sager’s son.

This is what Tony Irwin has just shared a few minutes ago…

 

A picture of his father when he was a recruit.

Tony wanted to know more…

I’m curious and wonder if there’s some way to determine something I’ve been unable to clarify. That is…who was flying wing to S/L Wally McLeod the day he didn’t return?

How Wally McLeod died and who was his wingman?

 

To read Leslie Birket Foster’s memoirs, click here.

To learn more about F/O J. R. Irwin…?

For your consideration.

An aviation print by Robert Taylor depicting ‘The Canadian Wing’ patrolling the beaches of Normandy on D-Day. As per my dad’s log book he participated in those patrols.

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This is post No.111

This blog has been dormant for quite a while.

It’s perfectly alright because it’s meant to be discovered by relatives of pilots who flew with 443 Squadron.

It would take you many hours to read all that I wrote about that squadron I never knew had existed before Nicole Morley wrote a comment on another blog.

This is how my blogs are created.

This is a great picture of Ivor Williams.

Nicole 001 Ivor Williams

Ivor gave it to Nicole and she scanned it.

When Nicole sent it I did not know where that picture was taken.

Now I know.

Ivor Williams

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WILLIAMS, William Ivor

At London Health Sciences, Victoria Hospital, on Friday, January 13th, 2017, in his 94th year. Ivor was the much loved husband of the late Dulcie (née Williamson) (2014). Dear father of Garry (Heidi) and Judie (Gerry) Wheaton. Proud Grandpa of Jill Kazakoff (Jason), Beth Wheaton (Geoff Milsom), Megan (Mark Letellier) and Darcy Williams (Mike Pearson). Great grandfather of Madeline and Allison Kazakoff, of Edson, AB; Sydney and Michaela Dulcie Milsom, of Edmonton; and Ben Williams, of London. Fondly remembered by his niece Myra Henry (Bill), of Goderich, as well as by other members of his extended family. Predeceased by sister Eluned McNair (2014) and brother Maldwyn (WWII).

Ivor participated in the Normandy Landing (RCAF) in June 1944. Post-war, he became a journalist, eventually taking the position of managing editor of the London Free Press. Later in his career, he was editor of the Regina Leader Post for about 15 years.

Active at Westmount Presbyterian Church, Ivor also took part in professional organizations and volunteered in his community. He enjoyed his time with a wide circle of friends. Many thanks to the caregivers at Inspirit and Highview Residences in London, where Ivor spent his last 5 years, as well as to the Ortho and Palliative Care staff at Victoria Hospital.

Thanks also to Ivor’s friends who faithfully visited him, took him for coffee and drives and shared memories with him. Cremation has taken place, and a celebration of Ivor’s life will be conducted at WESTMOUNT PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH , 521 Village Green Avenue, London at a later date. Memorial donations may be made to Westmount Presbyterian Church, the Kiwanis Club of Middlesex Inc., or to the charity of your choice.

Information and online condolences are available by visiting http://www.westviewfuneralchapel.com13136576

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Arrival in Liverpool, January 1944 Redux

I had started this blog with what I could find about 443 Squadron.

I had found this information on the Internet…

On the morning of December 23, 1943, the advance party of No. 129 Squadron arrived to take over No. 127’s duties at Dartmouth and a happy band of officers and airmen boarded a train to take them home on embarkation leave. So ended No. 127 Squadron’s tour in Canada. The squadron’s flying personnel now included: S/L H. W. McLeod, F/Ls D. M. Walz and M. V. Shenk, P/Os E. H. Fairfield, A. J. Horrell, A. Hunter, G. F. Ockenden and C. E. Scarlett, P/Os W. A. Aziz, S. Bregman, L. B. Foster, W. A. C. Gilbert, T. G. Munro, L. Perez-Gomez, L. P. E. Piché, W. I. Williams and L. H. Wilson, W02 D. F. Bridges, F/Ss P. G. Bockman, P. E. Ferguson and G. E. Urquhart, and Sgt H. W. Summerfeldt.

 

The squadron’s flying personnel now included:

S/L H. W. McLeod,

F/L D. M. Walz

F/L M. V. Shenk,

P/O E. H. Fairfield,

P/O A. J. Horrell,

P/O A. Hunter,

P/O G. F. Ockenden

P/O C. E. Scarlett,

P/O W. A. Aziz,

P/O S. Bregman,

P/O L. B. Foster,

P/O W. A. C. Gilbert,

P/O T. G. Munro,

P/O L. Perez-Gomez,

P/O L. P. E. Piché,

P/O W. I. Williams

 P/O L. H. Wilson,

WO2 D. F. Bridges,

F/S P. G. Bockman,

F/S P. E. Ferguson and

F/S G. E. Urquhart, and

Sgt H. W. Summerfeldt.

 

Little did I know back then that this blog would generate some interest among my readers.

In this message, Tara, Paul Émile Piché’s granddaughter wants to know who is the unknown pilot in this picture?

new identification 443 January 1944

I have been trying to figure out who the “unknown” pilot in the first row of the picture is. I have also changed the pilot identified as “Ferguson” in the far right, back row to “unknown” since P.E. Ferguson has been identified.

On Mr. McManus’ website, he identifies the members of 443 Squadron before they left Dartmouth. I put this information in a table to help us identify the “unknown” pilots in the photo.  McManus tells us that there were 23 pilots in 443 Squadron but the photo only has 18 people in it. When I cross-reference the pilots from McManus’ website, I find that six people are not accounted for in the photo:

F/L D.M. Walz

P/O E.H. Fairfield

P/O S. Bregman

WO2 D.F. Bridges

F/S G.E. Urquhart.

Sgt. H.W. Summerfeldt.

If this photo is only of the pilots, can we assume that the two unknown airmen are Fairfield and Bregman?
Would you be able to double-check my work to see if this might be a possibility? I think it is important to put a name to these men. To that end, I would also like to put their full names where possible instead of just initials. Somewhere, someone knew them as “Bill” or “Len” etc. and by giving them a name instead of initials, we make their life more real.
Thanks,
Tara

This is the original picture taken from the archives of the DND.

Squadron photo Jan 1944

I used it to make different montages.

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Paul Emile Piché

Paul-Émile Piché

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Art Horrell

Arthur James Horrell

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Luis Perez-Gomez

Luis Perez-Gomez

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Alex Hunter

Alex Hunter

Squadron photo Jan 1944 C E Scarlet

C. E. Scarlet

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Ferguson

Percival Edward Ferguson

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Gordon Frederick Ockenden

Gordon Frederick Ockenden

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Henry Wallace McLeod

Henry Wallace McLeod

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Ivor Williams

Ivor Williams

Squadron photo Jan 1944 L H Wilson

L. H. Wilson

Squadron photo Jan 1944 M V Shenk

M. V. Shenk

Squadron photo Jan 1944 P G Bockman

P. G. Bockman

Squadron photo Jan 1944 T G Munroe

T. G. Munroe

Squadron photo Jan 1944 unidentified pilot

unidentified pilot

Squadron photo Jan 1944 W A Aziz

W. A. Aziz

Squadron photo Jan 1944 W A C Gilbert

W. A. C. Gilbert

This is Tara’s worksheet about where she stands right now in her search.

Rank 127 Squadron – December 1943

Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

(From: http://www.mcmanus.ca/02CofC/443history_files/history1.htm)

23 pilots, 3 airmen and 1 medical officer

January 31, 1944

Liverpool, England

(From: photo edited by Ivor Williams)

First and middle names? Notes
S/L H.W. McLeod Henry Wallace McLeod   Took over leadership of Squadron from Paul Gilbertson Dec  1943
F/L D.M. Waltz     One of original 13 pilots of 127 Squadron
F/L M.V. Shenk M.V. Shenk Vince? Joined squadron  in July 1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O E.H. Fairfield     Not sure when he joined 443
P/O A. J. Horrell Arthur James Horrell   Joined squadron at Gander in May 1943
P/O A. Hunter Alex Hunter   Joined squadron  in Sept.  1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O G. F. Ockenden Gordon Frederick Ockenden   Joined squadron at Gander in April 1943
P/O C.E. Scarlett C.E. Scarlett   Joined squadron at Gander in April 1943
P/O W.A. Aziz W.A. Aziz Bill? Joined squadron at Gander in June 1943
P/O S. Bregman     Joined squadron at Gander in June 1943
P/O. L. B. Foster Les Foster   Joined squadron at Gander in Dec 1942
P/O W.A.C.Gilbert William Alonzo Cramner Gilbert   Joined squadron  in Nov. 1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O T.G. Munro T.G. Munro   Joined squadron  in July 1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O L. Perez-Gomez Luis Perez-Gomez   Joined squadron  in Nov. 1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O P.E. Piche Louis Paul Emile Piche   Joined squadron  in July 1943 now back in Dartmouth
P/O W. I. Williams Ivor Williams   Joined squadron at Gander in Dec 1942
P/O L. H. Wilson L.H. Wilson Len? Joined squadron  in Nov. 1943 now back in Dartmouth
WO2 D.F. Bridges     Joined squadron at Gander in Dec 1942
F/S P.G. Bockman P.G. Bockman (Vickers)   Joined squadron at Gander in Nov 1942
F/S P.E. Ferguson Percival Edward Ferguson   Joined squadron  in July 1943 now back in Dartmouth
F/S G.E. Urquhart     Joined squadron at Gander in Nov 1943
Sgt. H.W. Summerfeldt     Joined squadron at Gander in June 1943
December 23, 1943 – Jan ? 1944  Embarkation Leave

Depart Lachine on ship, “Pasteur” on Jan 20, 1944

 Arrive Liverpool, England January 31, 1944

Once in England they were joined in approximately March 1944 by:
F/S R.A. Hodgins      
F/L W.A. Prest      
Further joined in approximately April 1944 by:
F/L I.R. MacLennan      
DFM Hugh Russell      
  E.B. Stovel      
F/O J.R. Irwin      
F/O G.R. Stephen      
P/O R.B. Henderson      
“A” Flight – Ian MacLennan “B” Flight – Bill Prest
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

 

Post 75 – About this picture

Squadron photo Jan 1944 W A C Gilbert

This is a montage I made using Paint from Windows.

Simple to make. Just copy a section, paste it, resize it (400%), and move it where you want to place it.

Take this image sent in 2013 by Nicole Morley, whom I never met.

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Nicole is the person behind the idea of this blog. She shared what little she knew in 2013 about her granduncle, and I got curious and created this blog about 443 Squadron.

Arthur James Horrell

In April 2013, Nicole met Ivor Williams, another Spitfire pilot with 443 Squadron, and he identified for her most of the pilots on this picture.

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Nicole wrote everything down and passed it on.

Nicole just wrote me about it.

Hi
I just wanted to let you know that after doing some digging I learned that Philip Bockman changed his last name to Vickers after the war. I originally had put the name Bickers underneath his full name but I realize afterwards that I misunderstood Ivor Williams. Also where you listed the name Ferguson with regards to Squadron 443 it should read Percival Edward Ferguson.
Take care.                           
                                             
Nicole Morley
There was another correction made earlier by this pilot’s daughter…
Squadron photo Jan 1944 W A C Gilbert
Rooney Alexander Hodgins should say instead William Alonzo Cramner Gilbert aka “WAC Gilbert”
How can I make that correction?
Simple…
new identification 443 January 1944

 

Arrival in Liverpool, January 1944

From this picture found on the Internet in 2013…

443 Squadron Pilots arriving in England in 1944

To this when Nicole Morley met Ivor Williams…

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And to this from Tara, Paul-Émile Piché’s granddaughter…

Squadron photo Jan 1944

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Paul Emile Piché

Paul-Émile Piché

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Art Horrell

Arthur Horrell

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Luis Perez-Gomez

Luis Perez-Gomez

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Alex Hunter

Alex Hunter

Squadron photo Jan 1944 C E Scarlet

C E Scarlet

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Ferguson

Percival Edward Ferguson

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Gordon Frederick Ockenden

Gordon Frederick Ockenden

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Henry Wallace McLeod

Henry Wallace McLeod

Squadron photo Jan 1944 Ivor Williams

Ivor Williams

Squadron photo Jan 1944 L H Wilson

L H Wilson

Squadron photo Jan 1944 M V Shenk

M V Shenk

Squadron photo Jan 1944 P G Bockman

P G Bockman

Squadron photo Jan 1944 T G Munroe

T G Munroe

Squadron photo Jan 1944 unidentified pilot

Was an unidentified pilot…

Sidney  Bregman

Squadron photo Jan 1944 W A Aziz

W A Aziz

Squadron photo Jan 1944 W A C Gilbert

W A C Gilbert

The Names – Comment

Hello:

I wanted to comment on your post from the 21st of April, 2013, which includes the photo of Squadron 443 with names inked in to identify the pilots. One pilot, fourth from the left, in the front row, is incorrectly identified as R A Hodgins. This is, in fact, W. A. C. Gilbert. I am his daughter.

Regards,

Jean (Gilbert) MacFarlane

This is the original post

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Why wait for tomorrow…

Life is too short.

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Can’t get better than this…

You can click on the image to zoom in.

This blog started to pay homage to this pilot

Arthur Horrell

Arthur James Horrell

I knew from the start it would not end with only one post just like when I started my blog about RCAF 403 Squadron in 2011. Or its sequel about 128 Squadron.

Just like when I started my blog about the sinking of the Athabaskan back in 2009.

Where this blog about RCAF 443 will go, I have no idea. I know that I will do next though. Paying homage to the pilot who died with Arthur on October 1944.

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Next time I will look for more information on W. A. C. Gilbert

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